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• China is trying to establish a domestic GPU market
• The idea is to steer away from reliance on sanctioned Nvidia GPUs
• However compatibility and cost is causing significant issues

US export restrictions have targeted China’s access to advanced chips, fearing that cutting-edge technology could bolster China’s military capabilities.

These sanctions have forced the nation to ramp up efforts to develop its own GPU technology, with Chinese start-ups already making significant strides in GPU hardware and software development.

However, the shift from globally recognized Nvidia chips to homegrown alternatives involves extensive engineering, slowing down the progress of AI advancements. Despite China’s progress in this sector, the challenges posed by incompatible systems and technology gaps remain significant.

High cost and complexity

A government-backed think tank in Beijing has therefore suggested that Chinese data centers continue to use Nvidia chips due to the high costs and complexity involved in shifting to domestic alternatives.

Nvidia’s A100 and H100 GPUs, widely used for training AI models, were barred from export to China in August 2022, leading the company to create modified versions like the A800 and H800. However, these chips were also banned by Washington in October 2023, leaving China with limited access to the advanced hardware it had relied on.

Despite the rapid development of Chinese GPU start-ups, the think tank pointed out that transferring AI models from Nvidia hardware to domestic solutions remains challenging due to differences in hardware and software. The extensive engineering required for such a transition would result in significant costs for data centers, making Nvidia chips more appealing despite the limitations on availability.

Even with US sanctions, China’s AI computing power continues to grow at a rapid pace. As of 2023, China’s computing capacity, which includes both central processing units (CPUs) and GPUs, increased by 27 per cent year on year, reaching 230 Eflops.

GPU-based computing power, essential for AI model training and inference, grew even faster, with a 70 per cent increase over the same period. Furthermore, China’s AI hardware landscape has expanded significantly, with over 250 internet data centers (IDCs) either completed or under construction by mid-2023.

These centers are part of a larger push towards “new infrastructure,” backed by local governments, state-owned telecommunications operators, and private investors. However, this rapid build out has also led to concerns about overcapacity and under-utilization.

“If the conditions allow, [data centres] can choose [Nvidia’s] A100 and H100 high-performance computing units. If the need for computing power is limited, they can also choose H20 or alternative domestic solutions,” the China Academy of Information and Communications Technology (CAICT) said in a report on China’s computing power development issued on Sunday.

“The trend of computing power fragmentation is increasingly severe, with GPU average use rates less than 40 per cent…There are big discrepancies on hardware in IDCs, such as in GPUs, AI accelerators and network structures, which made it harder to manage and dispatch hardware resources to accommodate for differential computing needs of AI tasks, further impeding the use rate,” the report added.

Via SCMP

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• Prime Video has finally revealed when Reacher season 3 will be released
• The hugely popular action show will premiere on the streamer next February
• A 30-second teaser confirms Jack Reacher will meet his match in the series' next chapter

Prime Video has confirmed that Reacher season 3 will make its debut on the streaming service in early 2025.

Announced during an Amazon presentation at CCXP 2024 in São Paulo, Brazil, Reacher's third installment will premiere on the platform on February 20, 2025. That's a Thursday, for anyone wondering.

That wasn't the only exciting announcement that Prime Video made about Jack Reacher's next outing. Indeed, one of the world's best streaming services also released a first-look teaser for its action series' next chapter, which proves the titular hero will finally meet his match, especially from a height perspective, in season 3.

The 30-second stinger is packed with the kind of adrenaline-fuelled footage we've come to expect from Reacher's TV adaptation. Alan Ritchson's muscular protagonist being a badass? Check. Explosions and gunfire aplenty? Double check. The return of Maria Sten's Frances Neagley? Triple check.

What fans of one of the best Prime Video shows might not have expected, though, is to see the titular man mountain dwarfed by another individual. Well, it turns out Reacher, who stands at 6'5, isn't the tallest and hardest hitting guy around anymore. That award goes to a guy who Reacher calls Paulie – a colossus of a man who'll be portrayed by the 7'2 Olivier Richters, who's famously known as 'The Dutch Giant' in real life. Judging by his ability to not only withstand Reacher's powerful punches, but also knock the eponymous hero to the ground with a single throw of his own, it seems Reacher will have to use all of his nous and skills to defeat this towering foe.

Time to hit the road again, Jack (Image credit: Amazon MGM Studios)

As for Reacher season 3's story, here's a brief plot synopsis, courtesy of Amazon: "Based on Lee Child’s novel Persuader, in the third season of the action-packed series, Reacher hurtles into the dark heart of a vast criminal enterprise when trying to rescue an undercover DEA informant whose time is running out. There he finds a world of secrecy and violence – and confronts some unfinished business from his own past."

Joining Ritchson, Sten, and Richters on the cast list for Reacher's next entry are Anthony Michael Hall, Sonya Cassidy, Brian Tee, Johnny Berchtold, Robert Montesinos, Daniel David Stewart. Nick Santora (FUBAR, Prison Break) returns as its showrunner and one of the series' executive producing team, which counts Child and Ritchson among its 11-strong team.

Reacher season 3 will launch on Prime Video with a three-episode premiere. New episodes will air weekly until the finale on March 27. That won't be the end of the road for the program's protagonist, though – Indeed, Amazon MGM Studios renewed Reacher for a fourth season in mid-October. As revealed in an Amazon press release, filming will begin on season 4 in 2025.

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Quordle was one of the original Wordle alternatives and is still going strong now more than 1,000 games later. It offers a genuine challenge, though, so read on if you need some Quordle hints today – or scroll down further for the answers.

Enjoy playing word games? You can also check out my NYT Connections today and NYT Strands today pages for hints and answers for those puzzles, while Marc's Wordle today column covers the original viral word game.

SPOILER WARNING: Information about Quordle today is below, so don't read on if you don't want to know the answers.

Quordle today (game #1049) - hint #1 - Vowels How many different vowels are in Quordle today?

• The number of different vowels in Quordle today is 3*.

* Note that by vowel we mean the five standard vowels (A, E, I, O, U), not Y (which is sometimes counted as a vowel too).

Quordle today (game #1049) - hint #2 - repeated letters Do any of today's Quordle answers contain repeated letters?

• The number of Quordle answers containing a repeated letter today is 0.

Quordle today (game #1049) - hint #3 - uncommon letters Do the letters Q, Z, X or J appear in Quordle today?

• No. None of Q, Z, X or J appear among today's Quordle answers.

Quordle today (game #1049) - hint #4 - starting letters (1) Do any of today's Quordle puzzles start with the same letter?

• The number of today's Quordle answers starting with the same letter is 0.

If you just want to know the answers at this stage, simply scroll down. If you're not ready yet then here's one more clue to make things a lot easier:

Quordle today (game #1049) - hint #5 - starting letters (2) What letters do today's Quordle answers start with?

• B

• S

• M

• I

Right, the answers are below, so DO NOT SCROLL ANY FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM.

Quordle today (game #1049) - the answers

(Image credit: Merriam-Webster)

The answers to today's Quordle, game #1049, are…

• BUNCH
• SHINY
• MOULT
• INTRO

After nailing the tactics yesterday – or getting lucky with my Battleships technique – I fell apart today, but I was on the right track with my starter ending in an O.

Some of the best things in life are five letter words that end in O – disco, bongo, mango, erm, photo? Which reminds me of Pablo and his hippo herd. Like many a multi millionaire from the 1980s, the Colombian king narco was fond of displaying his wealth via a collection of exotic animals including four hippos. After he was shot dead, the hippos escaped and rapidly grew to a sizable herd of 166 feral beasts causing havoc and wanton destruction in much the same way as their deceased owner.

The Quordle word that end in O among today’s quartet is the less exciting and more taxing to guess – for me at least – INTRO which was actually my Quordle outro.

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Daily Sequence today (game #1049) - the answers

(Image credit: Merriam-Webster)

The answers to today's Quordle Daily Sequence, game #1049, are…

• TAPER
• DRAWL
• JERKY
• MUDDY

Quordle answers: The past 20

• Quordle #1048, Saturday 7 December: SHAKY, CROOK, GHOUL, VERSE
• Quordle #1047, Friday 6 December: BRAWL, UNTIL, DOWRY, STING
• Quordle #1046, Thursday 5 December: AGING, BICEP, CLOVE, SPILL
• Quordle #1045, Wednesday 4 December: JUDGE, GIVER, GNASH, CLOAK
• Quordle #1044, Tuesday 3 December: FUDGE, THICK, CRANK, STASH
• Quordle #1043, Monday 2 December: TROPE, HOVER, SAUNA, SHAPE
• Quordle #1042, Sunday 1 December: NAIVE, CIRCA, STEAD, MICRO
• Quordle #1041, Saturday 30 November: MAMMA, SNUCK, CRYPT, TAROT
• Quordle #1040, Friday 29 November: JOIST, DROOL, DUSKY, GLIDE
• Quordle #1039, Thursday 28 November: GRADE, WORRY, NOISE, DAISY
• Quordle #1038, Wednesday 27 November: HEART, ROGUE, INEPT, UTILE
• Quordle #1037, Tuesday 26 November: PRIED, FAINT, HURRY, WOOER
• Quordle #1036, Monday 25 November: NUDGE, SNOOP, SHACK, DRYLY
• Quordle #1035, Sunday 24 November: CLOTH, CLAMP, PETTY, CHEST
• Quordle #1034, Saturday 23 November: AVOID, PLANT, FILET, TWIRL
• Quordle #1033, Friday 22 November: CUTIE, ALOOF, ETUDE, SILLY
• Quordle #1032, Thursday 21 November: RABBI, EAGER, COUGH, BRASH
• Quordle #1031, Wednesday 20 November: MINTY, TOPAZ, BRUSH, LAPEL
• Quordle #1030, Tuesday 19 November: NINJA, PENCE, PAINT, FOIST
• Quordle #1029, Monday 18 November: ASCOT, BRINK, WEIRD, HOMER

Good morning! Let's play Connections, the NYT's clever word game that challenges you to group answers in various categories. It can be tough, so read on if you need clues.

What should you do once you've finished? Why, play some more word games of course. I've also got daily Strands hints and answers and Quordle hints and answers articles if you need help for those too, while Marc's Wordle today page covers the original viral word game.

SPOILER WARNING: Information about NYT Connections today is below, so don't read on if you don't want to know the answers.

NYT Connections today (game #546) - today's words

(Image credit: New York Times)

Today's NYT Connections words are…

• SANDWICH
• CATERPILLAR
• SHOEHORN
• SEOUL
• SLUG
• WRAP
• WEDGE
• SOCK
• PUMA
• BELT
• METTLE
• DOVE
• INDY
• GREYHOUND
• BLOW
• SQUEEZE

NYT Connections today (game #546) - hint #1 - group hints

What are some clues for today's NYT Connections groups?

• Yellow: So you wanna be a boxer?
• Green: No space left
• Blue: Branded creatures
• Purple: Sounds like sounds

Need more clues?

We're firmly in spoiler territory now, but read on if you want to know what the four theme answers are for today's NYT Connections puzzles…

NYT Connections today (game #546) - hint #2 - group answers

What are the answers for today's NYT Connections groups?

• YELLOW: PUNCH 
• GREEN: CRAM 
• BLUE: COMPANIES NAMED AFTER ANIMALS
• PURPLE: HOMOPHONES OF MUSIC GENRES

Right, the answers are below, so DO NOT SCROLL ANY FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM.

NYT Connections today (game #546) - the answers

(Image credit: New York Times)

The answers to today's Connections, game #546, are…

• YELLOW: PUNCH BELT, BLOW, SLUG, SOCK
• GREEN: CRAM SANDWICH, SHOEHORN, SQUEEZE, WEDGE
• BLUE: COMPANIES NAMED AFTER ANIMALS CATERPILLAR, DOVE, GREYHOUND, PUMA
• PURPLE: HOMOPHONES OF MUSIC GENRES INDY, METTLE, SEOUL, WRAP

• My rating: Easy
• My score: Perfect

Today was one of those magical green-light days when Connections made perfect sense. Usually I'm floundering around for the fourth word, falling into the red herring traps, or failing to see the obvious before my eyes. But today it just clicked.

After watching Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson last month, I'm well versed in the rich variety of ways to describe hitting someone – or indeed not hitting someone. That led me to yellow, PUNCH, while green (CRAM) was only a little harder.

As always, blue and purple were harder, but having owned a pair back in the day, it was CATERPILLAR boots I thought of first before the multi-legged insect – making it easy to make the link with other COMPANIES NAMED AFTER ANIMALS with the addition of PUMA, GREYHOUND, and DOVE. Had I not been so familiar with the boot brand, I would have been looking for another insect to go along with SLUG.

Yesterday's NYT Connections answers (Saturday, 7 December, game #545)

• YELLOW: THINK OF TOGETHER AFFILIATE, ASSOCIATE, EQUATE, RELATE
• GREEN: WAYS TO ATTRACT FISH BAIT, CHUM, FLY, LURE
• BLUE: W.N.B.A. TEAMS LIBERTY, STORM, SUN, WINGS
• PURPLE: LONG___ BOW, FELLOW, HORN, LEGS

What is NYT Connections?

NYT Connections is one of several increasingly popular word games made by the New York Times. It challenges you to find groups of four items that share something in common, and each group has a different difficulty level: green is easy, yellow a little harder, blue often quite tough and purple usually very difficult.

On the plus side, you don't technically need to solve the final one, as you'll be able to answer that one by a process of elimination. What's more, you can make up to four mistakes, which gives you a little bit of breathing room.

It's a little more involved than something like Wordle, however, and there are plenty of opportunities for the game to trip you up with tricks. For instance, watch out for homophones and other word games that could disguise the answers.

It's playable for free via the NYT Games site on desktop or mobile.

Strands is the NYT's latest word game after the likes of Wordle, Spelling Bee and Connections – and it's great fun. It can be difficult, though, so read on for my Strands hints.

Want more word-based fun? Then check out my NYT Connections today and Quordle today pages for hints and answers for those games, and Marc's Wordle today page for the original viral word game.

SPOILER WARNING: Information about NYT Strands today is below, so don't read on if you don't want to know the answers.

NYT Strands today (game #280) - hint #1 - today's theme What is the theme of today's NYT Strands?

• Today's NYT Strands theme is… A timely theme

NYT Strands today (game #280) - hint #2 - clue words

Play any of these words to unlock the in-game hints system.

• SAID
• BLUR
• COAL
• TIDE
• RANG
• LAID

NYT Strands today (game #280) - hint #3 - spangram What is a hint for today's spangram?

• On your wrist

NYT Strands today (game #280) - hint #4 - spangram position What are two sides of the board that today's spangram touches?

First: top, 3rd column

Last: bottom, 3rd column

Right, the answers are below, so DO NOT SCROLL ANY FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM.

NYT Strands today (game #280) - the answers

(Image credit: New York Times)

The answers to today's Strands, game #280, are…

• FACE
• HANDS
• BEZEL
• CROWN
• LUXURY
• DIGITAL
• ANALOG
• SPANGRAM: WATCHWORDS

• My rating: Easy
• My score: 1 hint

Today’s theme was WATCHWORDS and it got me thinking about how much I love my Apple Watch and its many uses, but also a little nostalgic for my old ANALOG timepieces of yesteryear, who had just one job – to tell me the time. Ah, simple, distant days, memory wastes, memory wastes…

In case you think I’m losing my mind, those words are from one of my favorite songs – Cattle and Cane by The Go-Betweens. It includes the evocative line “his father’s watch – he left it in the shower”. It’s about memory, being young and naive and doing thoughtless things like losing a precious belonging in the school bathrooms after gym class. It was released in 1983, but I’m sure anyone listening to it in 2024 would still think the watch in question was some beautiful Omega Seamaster or Rolex Oyster rather than erm a Samsung Galaxy Watch Ultra. I mean you would be sad if you lost that, but you could also wear it in the shower, so it’s unlikely you’d leave it behind.

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Yesterday's NYT Strands answers (Saturday, 7 December, game #279)

• FRIED
• BAKED
• MASHED
• ROASTED
• FONDANT
• SCALLOPED
• SPANGRAM: HOT POTATO

What is NYT Strands?

Strands is the NYT's new word game, following Wordle and Connections. It's now out of beta so is a fully fledged member of the NYT's games stable and can be played on the NYT Games site on desktop or mobile.

I've got a full guide to how to play NYT Strands, complete with tips for solving it, so check that out if you're struggling to beat it each day.

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• A new material that generates electricity has been made by scientists
• The material was synthesized at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
• It could be used in shoes, keyboard, and building to generate electricity

Researchers at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in New York have made a significant breakthrough in sustainable energy, paving the way for futuristic innovations like self-charging cars, energy-generating skyscrapers, and streetlights powered by traffic.

The research team developed a new environmentally friendly material which taps into the power of the piezoelectric effect. This phenomenon causes materials to generate electricity when subjected to pressure or vibrations.

The new polymer film, infused with a chalcogenide perovskite compound, has promising applications in a wide variety of fields, from infrastructure to biomedical devices.

Chalcogenide perovskite film

The piezoelectric effect occurs when certain materials, lacking structural symmetry, produce electric charges under mechanical stress. As the material is compressed or stretched, positive and negative ions within it are separated, creating what is known as a dipole moment. This moment can then be harvested as electrical energy.

For decades, engineers and scientists have sought ways to exploit this phenomenon, but many existing piezoelectric materials contain lead, limiting their environmental friendliness.

The new polymer film developed by RPI researchers is lead-free making it a more appealing option for green energy solutions. The film’s key ingredient is a chalcogenide perovskite compound that contains barium, zirconium, and sulfur. After the research team synthesized this compound, they tested its ability to generate electricity through various human movements such as walking, running, clapping, and tapping.

According to the research, the material generated enough electricity in these tests to power a bank of LED lights. The new film is 0.3 millimeters thick thus it could be easily integrated into devices and structures without significantly altering their designs. This film could therefore be integrated into the keyboard of our laptops to charge the device as we type.

Other use cases posited include incorporating the material into shoes to charge devices as people walk, integrated into electric car tires to charge the battery as the car moves, or integrated into building structures to generate power as they sway in the wind or shift with daily use.

"We are excited and encouraged by our findings and their potential to support the transition to green energy," said Nikhil Koratkar, Ph.D., corresponding author of the study and the John A. Clark and Edward T. Crossan Professor in the Department of Mechanical, Aerospace, and Nuclear Engineering.

"Lead is toxic and increasingly being restricted and phased out of materials and devices. Our goal was to create a material that was lead-free and could be made inexpensively using elements commonly found in nature…Essentially, the material converts mechanical energy into electrical energy—the greater the applied pressure load and the greater the surface area over which the pressure is applied, the greater the effect," Koratkar added

Via TechXplore

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• Apple has released the official trailer for season 2 of its multi-award-winning TV Original Severance
• The sci-fi mystery-thriller's latest chapter launches on Apple TV Plus in January 2025
• Its newest trailer is packed to the rafters with fascinating new mysteries and teases

Prepare your innies and outie accordingly, folks, because Severance season 2's official trailer has dropped – and it's an absolute doozy.

Ahead of the critically-acclaimed Apple TV series return to our screens in January 2025, the tech giant's streaming division has given us our best look yet at the sci-fi mystery-thriller's sophomore outing. Severance 2's first trailer was trippy and unsettling enough, but trust me when I say that there's a lot to unpack from this new, near-three-minute long teaser, too.

Major spoilers follow for Severance season 1!

Set to a slightly unsettling version of Four Tops' iconic Reach Out (I'll Be There) song, the trailer for Severance's second season is full of exciting moments. For starters, we see Mark Scout (Adam Scott) and Seth Milchick (Tramell Tillman) engaging in a cat-and-mouse game within Lumon Industries and in the real world. The pair's various encounters and suspense-filled conversations come after that stunning season 1 finale, which saw Mark and two of his fellow macro data refiners in Helly (Britt Lower) and Irving (John Turturro) successfully put their innies in their outie bodies using Lumon's secretive Overtime Contingency device. We also learned that Helly is Helena Eagan, aka the daughter of Lumon's current CEO Jame Eagan, which is sure to set the proverbial cat among the pigeons.

But I digress. Surprisingly, the group aren't punished by their superiors, but installed as the faces of 'Severance Reform' instead. Clearly, Lumon wants to maintain some form of peace to prevent the quartet from causing any more trouble – but, if I know Mark, Helly, Irving, and Dylan (Zach Cherry), they're going to create even more chaos.

The rest of the multi-award winning show's latest trailer suggests they're going to as well. Indeed, Mark's team are seen discussing the lives of their outies later in the teaser, with Mark finally telling his colleagues that Miss Casey (Dichen Lachman), Lumon's wellness chief, is Mark's presumed dead wife Gemma. Cue shock and awe galore.

Gwendoline Christie is one of many new faces we'll see in season 2 (Image credit: Apple TV Plus)

There's plenty more that one of the best Apple TV Plus shows' latest round of footage, too. There's an 'outie' showdown between Mark and Harmony Cobel/Mrs Selvig (Patricia Arquette). There are a few shots of Mark and his team, well, teaming up in the real world to unearth more Lumon secrets. There's the revelation that Christopher Walken's retired Optics and Design manager Burt is alive and well in the real world. Oh, and there are plenty of first looks at season 2's newcomers, including Gwendoline Christie's mysterious Severance character who were desperate to learn more about, someone watching a CCTV recording of the surprise kiss between Mark and Helly from season 1 episode 8, and more unsettling clips that are giving me chills. And, don't worry, we'll be seeing more of those baby goats from Severance's debut season.

Alongside all of the aforementioned actors and the character they play, Jen Tullock's Devon and Michael Chernus' Ricken are also back for as part of season 2's cast. Joining Christie on the new regular cast members front are Sarah Bock (The Coneisseur) and Ólafur Darri Ólafsson (NOS4A2).

Want more details on what lies in store for Mark and company in next season's 10-episode run? Plot wise, there's not much else to glean from its two teasers, nor season 2's story synopsis, which simply reads: "In season two, Mark and his friends learn the dire consequences of trifling with the severance barrier, leading them further down a path of woe". In short: January 2025 can't come soon enough.

Severance season 2 will launch exclusively with a one-episode premiere on Apple TV Plus, aka TechRadar's 2024 best streaming service award winner, on January 17, 2025. New episodes will air weekly until the finale on March 21.

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• Nvidia’s Project Denver began as x86 but transitioned to Arm
• Insider reports legal constraints drove Nvidia's pivot
• The Arm-based Project Denver CPU debuted in 2011

During a technical session at the recent SC24 event, Dave Ditzel, founder of Esperanto Technologies, offered some fascinating insights into Nvidia’s early server processor efforts.

According to HPCwire, Ditzel, who was previously CEO of Transmeta, revealed that Nvidia’s first server CPU, Project Denver, initially started as an x86 CPU but transitioned to Arm due to legal constraints.

Ditzel says Nvidia’s shift to Arm was influenced by its licensing of Transmeta’s Tokamak technology, which could translate x86 code into a RISC instruction set.

Failed attempt to acquire Arm

IAs he explained, “Nvidia brought out a product called Denver. It was actually that same design. It originally started as an x86 [CPU], but through certain legal issues, had to turn itself into an Arm CPU.”

This decision, he said, laid the foundation for Nvidia’s alignment with Arm architecture. Tokamak, developed by Transmeta, was intended to be its third-generation x86 chip following the Crusoe and Efficeon processors. However, the project was never officially launched and was instead licensed to companies like Intel and Nvidia.

ntel, despite acquiring the design, did not announce a product based on it either. “You can guess as to all the reasons why or buy me a beer sometime,” Ditzel said.

Nvidia officially introduced Project Denver as an Arm-based CPU in 2011, later integrating it into its Tegra lineup. HPCwire reports that while there was initial enthusiasm around Arm servers, adoption was limited by challenges in the software ecosystem. Nvidia has since developed its Grace CPU and abandoned its attempt to acquire Arm after regulatory opposition.

Ditzel founded chip design firm Esperanto about seven years ago and because of his previous bad experiences with licensing x86, he opted for RISC-V because it was cheap and there were no legal concerns to get bogged down by.

“At least we have a playground where we can test some new things out, and some lawyer is not going to be ringing your bell,” Ditzel said.

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